Overall Reviews at Tradesmen International
Outside Sales Representative | San Francisco Bay Area, CA | Apr 4, 2019
Very Poor Product, Long hours, Low Compensation, and Incompetent Upper Management
Let’s take thing one at a time, since there is a lot to cover here. Most of this is for the California market because that is where I worked.
Base pay is 30-40k per year + commission. Management will tell you can make 100K with their “robust” commission structure within a year. (They just lowered the commission rate it this year.) This is simply false. Only the top 10% of reps in this company make over 100K per year and none of them are in California. More than half of the reps in this company never break 50K per year. I knew one of the top rep in the Southern California market and he barely made 65K.
Expect to work 55-60 hours a week.
Goals are set out of thin air by the Area manager. My goal was the same as the goal of our whole office which encompassed 5 territories of which I only had one. .My goal was also 4 times what is was the previous year. When I questions how the goals were determined all I got was from the area manager was he determined the goals. He said it was not based on last years sales, projections or anything else. Just what "he thought" was a proper goal. This from a man that supposedly has an MBA.
Very Poor Product:
Tradesmen International business is Labor Support. We would provide carpenters plumbers and electricians help contractors improve there work flow and increase productivity. They say they have “Quality Craftsman” to accomplish this. The reality is far different.
We did have a few quality trades...more
ProsFree snacks in the office.
ConsPoor Compensation, Very inferior defective product.
Administrator | Fort Collins, CO | Jun 18, 2019
What started out as promising turned out to be the worst job experience of my life
During the interview process you're sold on what a great company and position you'll be a part of. Being that the GM is a formal salesman this (later on) is not surprising.
Be prepared to be belittled, talked down to, and have office morale depend solely on what kind of mood said GM shows up to work that day in.
Be prepared to be made to feel dumb when asking a question with constant phrases like "like I just said" or "it says it RIGHT THERE" or "we just talked about this in yesterday's meeting" or "it shouldn't be that hard" or "it must be user error" or "this wasn't an issue when so-and-so was here." These are all from memory. Sadly, I have an actual list I'll be reporting to HR very soon and the list of these types of phrases goes on and on.
The sales reps waste no time at warning you that what you're told in the interview process is far from the experience you'll have. It only takes a few days to hear the chatter or be given specific examples. Nobody is happy.
If hired as a rep be prepared to be micromanaged. If hired as a "secretary" as he likes to call it - be ready to asked to do things that aren't your job and get yelled at if they aren't done in the specific way dictated. This includes being told to harass clients and field employees alike as you are expected to call and/or email over and over (this means ALL DAY) or until management is satisfied. This also includes being told to attempt to micromanage other offices and even corporate.
ProsSick days, people bring their pets to work pretty much every day, free mediocre coffee.
ConsBeing made to feel like everything you do is wrong. Mistruths about competitive pay.
Administrative Assistant | Burns, OR | Jun 3, 2019
Bunch of rich corporate elites running everything
Used to be a good company not anymore. I've been an admin for 3 years for this company, I have always been part time (30-35 hours a week) and when I first started I got paid holidays, sick pay, vacation etc. They took that away about a year ago.
Now they have switched everything to Electronic timecards, employee does not have a choice in the matter you MUST have a device new enough to run chrome and input your hours electronically, then it's supposed to be emailed to the company supervisor. So if the supervisor forgets to approve it like many construction workers supervisors arent super into technology either... too bad. Its somehow my fault. It's my fault when grown men dont turn in their timecard. Somehow all this stuff I have no control over is my fault.
They also started doing electronic invoicing, so the client can not respond to the email (if they even get the invoice at all) and corporate is too lazy to send timecards. So we have a handful of people at corporate processing all the timecards and invoicing for thousands and thousands of employees and clients. There has been nothing but issues so far from employee and client perspective. I'm getting yelled at daily over things I have no control over. I cant even print out a basic list of the timecards that were processed or the invoice count. I'd have to search through 300+ clients just to see if anyone worked there or not.
They don't care about the field employees either. All they care about is making money. The comp...more
ConsThey only care about how much money corporate makes
Apprentice Electrician | La Mirada, CA | Nov 26, 2018
So here's my only thing
Tradesmen pays way better than most companies especially if you're a journeyman and you want to work on a prevailing wage job site, You make like 76/hr. however as apprentices go. every job wants you to work fast, and these clients lie to tradesmen and claim that the job is for 3 months, which just isn't true. the hard part which they give to us, normally rough in would take their guys 3 months to complete normally takes us 3 weeks to complete. if we go slower, we get kicked off the site, when we work hard and go fast, they kick us off the site upon first inspection after rough in is complete. I've worked with many companies and it's always the same thing. The longest I was there at a single site by one client was 4-5 months and that was great. the reason they constantly let us go is whatever you're getting paid, tradesmen charges that company twice as much at least and every single foreman thinks that they can save money if they just get their guys to do the job but they fail to see that if they just paid their guys a fair living wage that they could get the top guys to do the work to begin with and not have to overpay to start. Tradesmen has perks like discounts on movie tickets, airfare, hotel and more, they give you the option of full benefits which is great but the highest a apprentice can get paid is $25/hr which is for like 4th/5th year apprentices. that is barely enough to survive on the coast. The great thing is Tradesmen is nationwide so if you wanna move to another...more
Prosweekly pay, direct deposit, perks, overtime, pay raises, paid time off, vaca time.
Conslack of work due to their high prices, lack of pay according to the cost of living.
Field Representative | Edison, NJ | Dec 7, 2018
Do Not Waste Your Time Unless Desperate
3 Jobs in 1- you're wearing too many hats in this company and higher management doesn't want to do anything. You're going to end up being a salesman (deliver 4 new clients a month signed on), managing multiple employees on jobsites, projects, end up taking care of pay issues, HR stuff because they're too cheap to hire anyone for that. With the amount of extreme turnover here, a lot will fall on you. If you fall behind on any of these "responsibilities", expect to get harassed and booted. It's chaotic and there's not much job security here.
Horrible Marketing- claim to be $500M and growing, but nobody has ever heard of them before...
Long Hours- expect to be at it 6am-9pm between walkouts (where you accompany tradesworkers to jobsites first day), driving around prospecting, being on the phone dealing with all sorts of issues, 3pm "mandatory" meetings, and all kinds of nonsense. You'll burn out fast. My head was throbbing 5 days a week, and then the phone doesn't stop ringing on weekends either. With that much headache, you'd make 10x more running your own business.
Moody Upper Management- This one you'd have to experience first hand. It's quite comical sometimes. Our office GM basically told us he's already well off and only there because he loves construction. A "motivation" speech that backfired.
This job is set up this way. To them, it's worth getting some client's out of you and booting you. That's their ROI on you. I left as soon as I saw the business mod...more
ProsGas paid for
ConsAll things listed below
Tradesmen | Ohio | Aug 24, 2018
Dont be fooled by Interview and Claims
This company is essentially a temp service for skilled tradesmen. I use the term skilled tradesmen very loosely. Management presents this company as if they are the leader in skilled trades but that couldn't be farther from the truth. These people will hire almost anyone with a pulse regardless of work ethic and skill set. You will see anyone from 18 year old kids to people well in their 60's. Very rarely will they have any type of work for you to do in your actual field or skill set and sell you out as a general labor for a low wage. They are more concerned with the quantity of workers on their sites as opposed to the quality. People can call off, have criminal records, be evident drug users and show up when they feel like with no repercussions. They also promise full time employment which usually ends up being about 20-30 hour weeks if you're lucky so don't worry about not having free time. Another terrible part of this company is the wages. You will have workers making $18 an hour while another worker can be making $12 even though they're doing the same work with the same level of experience. Its all about how much money they want in their pockets. They also present jobs they find you as a great wage even though you make about 45-60% of what the client is actually paying for the position. Management and sales reps regularly have picnics and meetings where they get drunk in the office which is completely unprofessional and unacceptable. A written review just doesn't do this...more
Prosits a job
Consread the review
Field Representative | United States | May 23, 2019
The single most dysfunctional place I have worked
They are demanding a 35% margin now for labor that is just way out of line with the market. You will work independently for the most part without any real training other than some sad company training videos you watch the first few days. Then you are out and selling the big push is to get new customers to sign up but you don't get paid anything for signing a new customer up. You only earn 6% commission on gross profit for the first 20k a Week in sales and once you hit 30k a week it bumps up to 16% but do the math on that and realize that right now out of the 100 sales reps I can see on the report only 15-20 hit this number in a given week. You lose 25% of your commission if the customer pays any more than 30days after the work week is done even if Tradesmen doesn't send out the invoice for 25 days and you also have no AR visibility to speak of so you don't even really know what's going on unless you dig into the software since they don't train you on it other than providing your log in information.
You will have a daily sales meeting at your office whether you are in the area or not and it's at 3 pm so figure on being in your office until close every day even if you started work at 4 am (and you will).
NO one cares
Management all hate the company and spend the entire sales meeting each day complaining to the sales force about upper management.
It is pretty much a nightmare.
ProsYou are employed? and it is nice putting people on good paying jobs
ConsEverything other than putting people to work is horrible.
Sales Representative | Unknown Gulch, ID | Jul 1, 2019
Tradesmen International doesn't care
First I would like to start off by saying I'm a dinosaur as a 3rd year sales rep. You read that correctly, turnover is horrible. Unless you work at the corporate location be prepared to experience mass exodus every couple of months. In my 3 years there has been 3 CEOs, my office has also had 3 General Managers, 3 Project Coordinators and 7 different Sales Rep. The base salaries are a big contributor to the turnover with a GM base in a new office only being 55k with a pitiful bonus structure and if you are able to get the office up to 3 million dollars of sales the base goes up to 85K and then the earning potential could be better. As for the reps and the pcs, you are looking at 30-35k base and zero annual increases... you read that right, you will not receive a cost of living increase. This year the COO of the company did a company wide conference call to advise all the sales reps would receive a lower commission percentage due to the company didn't plan for inflation and in his own words say "you are going to have to work harder if you want to make the same amount of money than last year" I don't think this reflects that company actually cares. Pairing the poor commission structure (that is all based on what is collected not sold and on Gross profits only) with the turnover it just reflects so poorly that I won't ever recommend it as a place of employment.
Prosflexible schedule for sales reps.
Conshigh turnover, bad pay, only paid commsion on what is collected, no consistency
Field Representative | Pleasant Grove, UT | Jun 25, 2019
Poorly ran business with a great business motto.
30k base salary plus $400 a month for gas with a possibility of making a lot with commissions. You are 1/4 factors when it comes to your commission. You have to go out and get an order for construction craftsmen, then your office coordinator has to find someone that fits the description of what you need, then if that is done in a timely manner you have to hope that guy will actually show up to work and stay working, and if all 3 of these things happen you have to hope the company that placed the order pays their invoice on time. If all 4 of these things happen you will get paid your commissions. Only bad thing was... was that getting past step 2 (finding an available qualified worker) was harder than explained when I was hired.
Also, the workers found aren't very quality and would no show a lot of times.
If you can make your way up to a higher position there is a lot of money in it but working as a sales/field rep... you start your day at 6am and can't finish until 6-7pm. You also have to take calls 24/7 with the cell phone they give you so you're pretty much nonstop working which is fine if the commissions are coming in but they are a lot of times not. I wouldn't work there if there I were you. A lot of money spent out of my own pocket because to do your job you need more than $400 monthly for gas.
Journeyman | Cincinnati, OH | Apr 4, 2019
I have worked for tradesman for over a year I have noticed that the reps will tell you anything to get you working .They make promises that they dont keep the benefits are very minimal and not that good at all no personal days sick days or holidays are paid.They will promise per diem and when it comes time to pay it they won't they dont offer out any raises you have to ask for them and beg a plea with them for any type of pay increase and probably not get one. They also like to give and take away pay from job to job if they tell you your going to make 18 they will try to pay you less on the next job .The field representatives dont do there job any time you ask for timesheets or need something they wont help you in my openion this company is a joke they dont let you work for any company that would want to hire you they expect highly skilled workers to work for way less than they deserve if a company wants to hire that worker the company should be able to that's why tradesman's a temp service but they try to say they aren't I say if you need a fast buck they might be okay to work for but if you want a company to grow with they aren't for you they will use below the belt tactics on you to make you feel about an inch tall
ProsIts a job